90 thoughts on “DBG Game Servers, Logins Being Affected — RESOLVED

  1. If your client is up-to-date you can launch everquest2.exe manually (bypassing the launcher) – it might take a while to respond (presumably needs to time out or takes a while to get a response) but you should be able to get in game.

    Has worked for me and a few others.

  2. The SOE forums were back for a while but they seem to be having issues again. When I do a tracert from my PC to the forums it looks like Level3 in Las Vegas is also having problems – I guess a lot of the DDOS traffic is going through there also.

  3. Can anyone explain why, after years of companies up to and including major multinationals being repeatedly knocked offline by this sort of thing, there isn’t a technological solution to prevent it happening? Is it literally impossible to stop?

    1. It’s hard to defend against tens of thousands of computers in a botnet hammering your servers with packets from all over the world, when your business involves in essence being connected to tens of thousands computers all over the world on the public internet. Only thing that helps is trying to find out how to distinguish good from bad packages and then having a good upstream provider who can block the bad ones for you so the good ones can come through again. Firewalls and all – they do nothing once the bad traffic jams up your connection to the internet.

      1. BCP 38

        I chose to educate myself, as suggested, on DDoS attacks. This is what I found….

        “The depth of the problem is illustrated by the fact that the basic principles for stopping such attacks have been widely recognized since at least 2000. That was the year that the Network Working Group of the Internet Engineering Task Force, a voluntary group of Internet and telecommunications engineers, laid out a set of “best current practices” that Internet companies and organizations were encouraged to follow to defeat a threat known as “I.P. address spoofing,” which is the ability for an attacker to hide behind a faked address that is crucial for denial-of-service attacks.

        But these basic Internet engineering “rules of the road,” laid out in a document known as BCP 38, are followed by a relatively small number of companies. “They have just not been willing to invest the effort it would take to make things so much better,” said Mark Seiden, a member of the Security and Stability Advisory Committee of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, which oversees the domain name system.

        http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/28/technology/attacks-on-spamhaus-used-internet-against-itself.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

        Does SoE follow BCP38? Or rather…. will Daybreak be following BCP38?

    2. @bhagpuss, basically, yes it’s impossible to stop the initial attack. Once it’s under way there are things you can do but it requires that not only the company under attack but their ISP and many of the other providers along the route get involved which takes time.

    3. Have a read of https://www.cloudflare.com/ddos – there are many different types of attack with new vectors/methods being discovered all the time.

      Doesn’t help that so many of SoE/Daybreaks services are tied together.. the game servers may be fine but the login servers are hit which then affects forums etc.. if they’re all sat on the same network then all services could be affected due to the sheer amount of traffic from the DDoS etc.

      There are ways to protect things but I don’t think any of them are 100% guaranteed and implementing them somewhere like Daybreak could be difficult and costly.

  4. not working for me. eq2.exe goes to launcher when i open it and launcher seems to want to work then it goes black. after a few minutes of waiting, i have to shut it down. tried the everquest2.exe and got that everquest 2 has issues and must be shut down.

      1. kk forums going in and out. one minute i can get the page loaded and then when i click next to go to the next page, it says problem loading page. guess they are trying to fix everything but it is a temporary fix right now and doesn’t stick.

  5. I’d be pretty embarrassed if I ran a company that could be knocked out by a bunch of nerds. Cutting the staff by a third plus probably doesn’t help either, and the real problem of channeling ALL of your games through ONE log in system is just dumb. All you are doing is making it more vulnerable, they attack one thing and wind up hitting them all.

  6. It would be really nice if the owners of hacked computers… computers participating in botnets, got financial penalties for their participation in such things.

    Might start making people serious about looking after their computers and improving their surfing habits.

    1. It would be really nice if the owners of hacked computers… computers participating in botnets, got financial penalties for their participation in such things.

      So if you’re sitting in your car stopped at an intersection and someone rear-ends you, pushing your car into and killing several pedestrians in the crosswalk in front of you, you think you should be charged with manslaughter even though you were stopped and had your foot on the brake?

      Might start making you serious about never driving…

  7. DDoS is the most childish of attacks. It’s the computer equivalent of the monkey flinging poo at the zoo.

    Unlike the monkey, it is difficult to defend against because every place with an internet connection has a limited number of access points and those points can all be known. Whereas the attackers can be anywhere and there can be any number of them.

    DDoS services can literally be bought with a (stolen) credit card from the purveyors of botnets, or you can drum up the sycophant masses from 4chan.

    Eventually they get bored and move on (or their botnet purchase runs out, as the case may be).

    1. It’s an attack, not a hack. It’s overwhelmingly difficult to defend against this type of attack. Imagine if millions of people were outside of your house with megaphones screaming at the top of your lungs while you were trying to sleep. You can’t call the police, there is no internet police. You just have to take it until they get bored and go away.

  8. game seems to be down now. even bypassing the launchpad didn’t help. however, i accidentally clicked on launchpad and it is installing updates. so maybe they took the game down to fix it? also forums are timing out again

  9. Well this brings back memories of the last house cleaning and the attack that brought down SOE for a couple of weeks. Not saying it’s the same, not saying that’s what happened last time, just saying it sure is a coincidence. Hope not. Like a lot of others, I was looking forward to this long weekend and getting some things done in game.

    1. I don’t have a console but I’d bet that anything requiring logging in is affected. Hopefully someday they diversify their games to where one attack doesn’t hit them all, but I doubt that will ever happen.

  10. you know, on their facebook page they claim they are attacking Sony today. If Daybreak had enough time before this to distance themselves from sony and change all of their sites and labels, they might not have gotten caught up in this.

    hasn’t anyone noticed that Sony has been the brunt of a lot of attacks and vendettas lately? Not Daybreak, Not CN, Sony.

    1. My guess would be the people that bought SoE have roughly the same amount of computer knowledge that someone like me has…..on a good day, I can find the power switch. So, they probably never thought about changing all the appropriate labels and such, at least not with any real alacrity.

    2. Guess you missed all the attacks on Blizzard, Steam, etc. that went alongside the attacks on SOE. Also Lizard Squad specifically said they were attacking Planetside 2. So myth busted about this having anything to do with Sony.

      1. was only reading what was on their facebook page. however, i guess all of our reporting to facebook helped this morning because i just tried to go to their facebook page and got a page not found error. i am on my own site on facebook so that isn’t down. their tweets are counting each site as they shut them down though

        Lizard Squad ‏@LizardPhoenix

        H1Z1 #offline

        1. You’re better than me, facebook twatters and the like I find invasive, and downright scary. As for attacks happening on things that I don’t use, well, I’d never be aware of things like that, unless one of my friends told me.

  11. An error occurred during a connection to forums.station.sony.com. The server rejected the handshake because the client downgraded to a lower TLS version than the server supports. (Error code: ssl_error_inappropriate_fallback_alert)

    that is what i am getting on the forum pages

  12. I second that, Merriel! I haven’t had a chance to start on Erollisi Day stuff yet. Been busy decorating a basement. And now that I have time…ugh! I sure wish people had the level of respect and consideration they had when I was a kid. If I had hacked into something like this, my parents would have let me sit in jail…no bail…no sympathy….do the crime, do the time! Seems that catching them, though, is as much of a challenge as finding a Tier’Dal in a Qeynosian temple. Just so sad that some people have nothing better to do than to screw up other peoples’ lives.

  13. lol back in game. watching in slow motion as the mobs try to kill me but inflict no damage, my spells not working, and then zoning into a zone i had clicked on at least 5 minutes ago. everything is in slow motion

    1. happened to me too. right click on the eq2 program on your desktop, choose properties, then choose open file location. in that file look for everquest2.exe. double click it and give it plenty of time. it will open, prompt you for a password and name of toon, and will very slowly load.

  14. DDOS attacks are made possible by all the grandmothers and luddites

    As a grandmother I resent this comment. I am okay with Luddites, but your attitude about Grandmothers is sexist and obsolete.

    1. Hi Feldon

      I have great respect and thank you for all you do – but please could you remove the reference to grandmothers somehow being partly responsible. I am female and old enough to be a grandmother and rather resent the comment. It is both sexist and ageist.

    2. Besides, it’s made possible by people who don’t think they need to set up and maintain firewalls and anti-malware software, by people who think their computer and the internet are simple tools like wrenches and toasters, and by just plain idiots who think they are invincible.

      It’s actually relatively simple to keep the kind of botware that is used for DDoS off your computer, but it takes a bit of learning, a bit of attention and fair amount of good sense… three properties lacking to a great degree in most computer users worldwide.

  15. Well a question to the more knowledgeable. I do have up to date anti-virus and also scan routinely for malware. I also am careful about email and links to websites.

    Is there a program that can analyze your network, everything attached to it, and find anything that is a problem?

    These days with smartphones, cars, tablets, desktops, laptops etc all using wifi and bluetooth…its hard to know what to do to prevent issues.

    1. You may be able to look at logs from the firewall in your network. Yes, you should have one – as a minimum, a properly configured router from your ISP that connects you to the internet… that should have its firewall features turned on. Looking at the logs is usually a hassle though.

      If your firewalls have been turned on, and you’ve got good passwords on the admin accounts, and you have taken the steps you say, you’re probably in good shape. Oh, and you absolutely, positively must keep Adobe products like Flash, Air and Reader right up to date, as well as Java. Like, really up to date.

      But… if you use weak passwords and rarely change them, run jailbroken/rooted smart phones, download software from dodgy torrent sites and let all traffic out through your firewall, then yeah, you could have issues and they could be hard to clean up. Well built malware can take steps to avoid detection.

      A rooted android device is a great vector for malware, for example, as are torrents.

    2. I’d have no idea myself….I paid the person that set up my computer to also set up virus protection and he put in place 2 firewalls I believe, one at the router one at the computer. Does it actually work? Heck if I know!

  16. Yeah, I have the firewall up, the wifi is password protected and I don’t go to or download questionable things. And I do update things routinely.

    Just get nervous with all the people out there constantly trying to put malware, ransomeware, keyloggers, and all that crap on computers.

  17. it has nothing to do with your firewalls. most of the “kids” are actually over 20. it is aimed not at your personal computers but at companies that provide service. please not the meaning of the anagram – distributed denial of service attack

    no company’s firewalls and antiviruses would protect against this. it is a group of over 50 to 1000 computers all jamming the service company at one time from all over the world. no firewall or anything else can defend against that. maybe you should take the advice given earlier and read up on it.

    and yeah, as a grandmother i too don’t like the flaming remarks against us. stop flaming and start educating yourself before making remarks that make you look foolish.

  18. Your personal computer security is a factor in this – you need it to prevent you becoming a part of a botnet unwillingly. Malware is what allows these people to co-opt other people’s computers into doing their dirty work.

    Katz simply asked if he/she was doing enough to prevent this – and it seems that he/she is. Being aware of the problem is half the battle.

    At one point a few years ago I noticed some unexplained traffic on my home computer network. I didn’t try to trace what was really going on, but I suspect that I was part of a botnet. I tightened my security – new router, new av, full scans etc and the problem was resolved.

  19. i went to their site and reported the threats and the posts that showed they had carried them out to facebook. i got a reply from facebook that they in no way violated their community standards. what does that say about facebook?

  20. To be the pot calling the kettle black…wouldn’t all us eq2 people trying to login to a video game on Valentine’s Day be members of the “I have no girl friend squad…”?? Just saying…

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