Update as of 9:45am PDT: Game and Account logins and Forum access have continued to be sporadically available. Census appears to be down, disabling EQ2U and Dragon’s Armory. More as we have it…
Update from Smedley as 5:40pm PDT last night, 29 hours into DDOS:
And sorry to say more DDOS. I apologize for the issues we are having. I have to own pissing them off and I'm sorry.
— John Smedley (@j_smedley) July 11, 2015
Just sorry they are taking it out on you, our players.
— John Smedley (@j_smedley) July 11, 2015
Update: DDoS has once again resumed against Daybreak Games, 24 hours after the attack began and which has continued with only a few interruptions:
We are continuing to resolve issues from a Distributed Denial of Service event. We will provide updates as available.
— Landmark (@LandmarkGame) July 10, 2015
Update: The DDoS seemed to once again abate approximately 15 minutes ago. Daybreak may have jinxed it by announcing such:
Things are looking good, and servers are unlocking. We'll continue to monitor the situation.
— EverQuest II (@everquestii) July 10, 2015
Update: Other than a 2 hour break from 2am to 4am PDT this morning and another 20 minute break around noon PDT, Daybreak Games froums, login, and game servers have been under sustained attack from DDoS flooding since 4pm yesterday (July 9th). A DDoS attack makes use of thousands of compromised computers (often in China as millions of internet users there are running unpatched Windows XP / Internet Explorer 6 machines) to send gigaquads of garbage packets to a specific target. The attack can be visualized in realtime at Norse Corp Security’s Realtime Mapping website. Attacks affecting Daybreak Games are routed through Level3 backbone in St. Louis, MO.
We are continuing to resolve issues from a Distributed Denial of Service event. We will provide updates as available.
— Daybreak Games (@DaybreakGames) July 10, 2015
two hours after the outage stopped, it started again:
We are experiencing issues again which may result in lag, disconnects, or inability to access games, forums, or websites. The team is aware.
— Daybreak Games (@DaybreakGames) July 10, 2015
When the outage seemed to have stopped:
Thank you for your patience and understanding during the service outage. Access to games, websites, and forums appear to be restored now.
— Daybreak Games (@DaybreakGames) July 10, 2015
Last night during some 12 hours of outage:
We are still working to resolve connectivity issues affecting many of you. Thank you for all your patience and understanding.
— Daybreak Games (@DaybreakGames) July 10, 2015
All games, websites, and forums are still impacted. We do not have an ETA for when services will be restored.
— Daybreak Games (@DaybreakGames) July 10, 2015
We are working to resolve the current connectivity issues. Thank you for your continued patience.
— Daybreak Games (@DaybreakGames) July 9, 2015
Getting a minor DDOS. We're working on it. should be back up soon. #annoying
— John Smedley (@j_smedley) July 9, 2015
If you have an attention span longer than the average cocker spaniel, you can read a more detailed explanation here:
who cares about the details? just why it’s not working duh
It’s not working because some idiots with nothing better to do wanted attention, so they found programs that do the DDOSing since they have no actual skills of their own. It’s like the old days when kids would set off fireworks in a school.
And it doesn’t help that Smedly started talking smack to them.
Not exactly his first time, either. He didn’t take well to those threats a while back.
On the bright side, his smack talk got them cocky enough to do that bomb scare and actually get some legal action.
I agree GriffonLady, and to all you people who think this is all Smeds fault I guess you think it was his fault they hacked xbox and playstation also?
I know someone that has money plays these games buy me a ticket and give me expenditure funds I will goto finland and put an end to this
I would hire some operators to remove the offenders and rendition them to a village in syria to play pong and slot racers for months on end.
Obviously Finland doesn’t have much of a justice system. This bratty, immature child should be in jail and forbidden to use a computer. His cohorts should also be arrested and stand trial. I’m dismayed to find Finland’s justice system so inadequate. And, good going to CEO Smedley. So we are inconvenienced. Big Deal. Tyli
I bet you favor public flogging for those caught TPing houses and similar juvenile stunts too.
BS. That kid is actively trying to get Smedely and his family killed. These aren’t kids playing pranks. They called in bomb threats to a plane he was on. That is international terrorism and in the States thats 5 to 10 years in prison. They’re also responsible for swatting John Smedelys home, which is convincing the cops that there is an active threat to the lives of people coming from a specific location. The cops respond by sending swat teams to go to that location. Given how dangerous this can be with cops amped up on adrenaline looking for trouble this could be a very dangerous situation, not to mention the cost to the cops for deploying these troops. These actions are worth another 5 to 10 years of prison in the States. And as if all this wasn’t enough, they’ve stolen Smedelys and his families personal, financial and medical information and released it on the internet, which takes thousands of dollars and sometimes hundreds of hours to recover from.
Still think these are harmless kids TP’ing someones house?
loic is like mcdonalds play place for wanna be hackers.
i cant get into forums or in the game. Is anyone able to play?
Not impressed. twerpy kids lashing out. Did daddy not hug you guys enough? Seriously tho, you think this is hurting smed? its only hurts the players who now have to find some other way to waste time. Its inconvenient. There, you inconvenienced everyone lol, now THATS power!!
Lizard squad, mildly annoying since 2014!!
I bet we could get ISIS to go after them some how. Just sign some comic strips as “Lizard squad” and watch what happens.
I’ve been patient with the past few of these but this shits getting old. 👿
Smed is a moron. Why is he egging these people on? Oh right, he doesn’t care anymore
Because last time, they called in a bomb scare on his plane and got caught/arrested/prosecuted. DDOSers get a slap on the wrist like the little children they are. Bomb scares though, that gets attention and action.
Lets see. They’ve swatted his home multiple times. They’ve called in bomb threats on a plane he was on, causing it to be diverted to a military base to be searched and cleared, they’ve released his and his families personal, financial and medical information on the internet which takes thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours to recover from. Egging them on? He is playing it cool as far as I’m concerned. These felons need to be extradited to Texas where we can show them what real justice is.
Think this would be a good time to increase ethereal drop rates……
Exactly Thalador!
Smedley won’t learn so it means the players suffer. DBG should of canned him or moved him out of his position. I would hope DBG will see what a liability he is at this time.
Seriously this is not Smed’s fault. These finnish kids need something else to do…
Smedley is partly to blame. He egged them on. “You’ll get your day in court too. I hope your prison cellmate likes you a lot.” The President of DBG everybody.
/sigh. Your right about Smedley, this game still has so much potential but they would rather cut thing to the bone than be truly innovative, or hire back devs. Its why WOW, inspite of being like Saturday morning cartoons has a healthy player base, and a heck of a lot more servers, and we are declining.
Play it YOUR way!!! …Just let us totally take away all incinitives to risk your player’s life in player made dungeons. And take away most of the ‘neet’ spawners you could purchase for them too…. etc.
EQII a water / water divided world. With no player sailable ships you can navigate the waters with. Domino was open to that idea.
Meanwhile WOW is coming out with something dealing with ships as well. *KICKS Daybreak* GET WITH IT!!!
Exactly. I am not saying lizard dudes are right, but smed is egging on someone he knows can take his whole company down. That is not a stable CEO
I don’t care what Smed said personally. I am annoyed SOE didn’t use more of our money to protect against this and I am mad that these childrens parents are such complete wastes of life to allow this to happen their actions speak volumes about their parents complete failure to raise useful members of society
Smedley can never help running his mouth.
Cheers to Smedley …. at least he isn’t like the lot of you giving props to a kid. Where I’m from, when a punk throws a tantrum like this, we pop ’em in the mouth. I say, throw the hacker in a real jail and let him play “drop the soap” for a couple of years! See if he can hack his way out of that 🙂
Well you just reach through your internet and pop that kid right in the mouth tough guy.
Smedley smacked a hornets nest and now we’re paying for it.
-.- I’d like to see them dead, honestly. People who just enjoy being an asshole to others shouldn’t be allowed to be in the gene pool… well… I guess lizard squad doesn’t get laid except as eggs, but yah.
That’s a little extreme don’t you think? I don’t value anything ..except personal safety of course, enough to want to take another’s life. No ISIS here.
Actually everyone’s life has a dollar value. In many languages blood and money are the same word. I would make sense to establish a dollar value on your life for certain crimes.
Nope. People that enjoy tormenting others need to be executed.
I know you’re inconvenienced. My Steam backlog is definitely enjoying my time. But yes. Lets outright kill misguided children who probably have shitty parents (actually agree with smed on this one yikes) and kill them until they are dead. Because that is totally eye for an eye here. Shut up already about ISIS and executing children. You’re just as bad. Find a subreddit and get outta here.
I threw up a little as I wrote this but as much as I dislike Smedley, he’s in the right on this. These little vermin have gone above and beyond strait trolling him into outright criminal personal offenses. He’s been personally attacked and has threatened personal attacks back via lawsuit. The only way they can respond is wasting thousands of peoples’ time via DDoS attacks. It’s completely stupid that the guy just got a slap on the wrist for this stuff.
I thought the hackers were done with this. Timing sucks… the Beta Server for all-access members went up last night, and now no one can get in. 😕
may be too complicated of an answer.. but i really dont get what they get , personally, out of what they do. Hackers. Is just so they can say they did it?
The same thing you get for egging a house or any other prank. lolz and bragging rights.
and prison time i would think (not for egging ❓ )
Please, do not call them hackers, the media abuses this word to often, call the criminals/terrorists/cybercriminals or whatever.
I call them children who can’t actually hack. Any toddler can click to start a DDOS program made my someone else.
Hacker is the correct common usage here…you can call them other things as well but that does not negate the correct common usage of the term here.
Hack is NOT the correct term here. There is no hack going on at Daybreak, only a denial of service. All that takes is loads of computers hitting up specific servers to deny service to everyone else. We’ve seen similar things in the old days when MMO’s first launched and on day 1 everyone has trouble logging in to play. The media, in general, may have associated the DDOS term with hack, but that does not mean it is correct.
well I can not even get the launcher to come up wow.
Fire John Smedley. Seriously how is this guy still employed?
Agreed
Do you know what a CEO is Honeybush?
What do you think CEO Smedly (that’s the name of “this guy”) has done that is wrong. Is he wrong to be angry that their servers have been shut down by a bunch of teenage cyberbullies? Tyli
Smedly is not wrong to be angry. He is wrong to pick a fight with people with a lot of anger and nothing to lose. The funny thing is that Smed has pretty much the same toxic personality that these kids have.
This is real bad timing for me, I am a truck driver and have limited time to play when I am done driving for the day. REBOOT the servers or move em IDK. New to EQ2 and I am enjoying the style of it all, hope this gets fixed soon 😈 🙁
Welcome to the game Oleggtoo.
I’m just done with this game and all of this nonsense. It’s annoying and it’s tiresome. 🙁
The game is great. It’s Smed who’s annoying and tiresome.
I agree Wanda,.. whole-heartedly.
If memory serves, was not smedly the dire annoyance in EQ1’s early days too? I know /gu comics had much to say about him.
ANY updates? this post is about 5 hrs old now…whats the deal?
Still Smedded up
Just cancelled my 2nd account no more cash for you.
That ‘ll show em!! 🙄
yeah right that’s why yer paying for 2 accounts right cause you don’t have any separation issues, don’t lie to yourself
Yep, cancelled 3. No expansion coming anyway.
Expansion 12 is coming in November.
This is bullshit already! I want a damn update from this company. My 10 day vacation started today and I was looking forward to some gaming. WTF is going on?
what is going on? you ask?
The servers which we access for the game are being deluged from a THIRD PARTY, whom thinks that hurting many innocents will somehow hurt smedly….
That “minor” DDoS is still going on. Feldon updated the article with the latest tweet from Daybreak.
sorry i dont so the tweet bullshit…
Well, they cant exactly use their own Forums right now 😕
Need to hire a Hacker to counter hack the hackers….
ER…Denial of service….what ever…. (no edit button, lol)
Pathetic…
LOL still moderating my comments? They just announced that all servers and games are down indefinitely with no ETA. Immediately cancelling my credit card and closing all 5 of my family accounts. Me, the wife, and kids will find a new game. Great job, Daybreak… nice backup plan!
I think canceling is a tad extreme but I totally agree they should have better communication and why they heck don’t they have sufficient DDoS prevention in place? Not like this is the first time this happened.
And Smedley not even thinking shooting off his big mouth. He should be fired. This was a foreseeable consequence of him “calling” these people out.
Well they sorta lost all their means of communication other than Twitter and Facebook. Never understood why SOE/Daybreak doesn’t have a separate website/server for communicating with players.
Wait! They DO! Reddit lol
if only there were some fan site that does an awesome job at posting news and game information. Damn shame that.
yea yea right, sureee you are happy, you aint cancelling SHIT and you know it!!
You do know that this is not a Daybreak site?
Seriously? Still not posting comments after 3 hours?
You seem prone to exaggeration. Your first comment was posted 37 minutes ago.
We moderate comments so that you don’t have to read the 2,938,049 Spam comments posted over the last two years. That is an actual number I just pulled from Akismet.
Rofl. We all sit here all day to post, yes.
The same people who are crying for updates from the company are the same that whine about having to go to the oh so scary Facebook or Twitter. How, pray, are they supposed to give an official word through their site if their site is under attack and no one can get to it?
Seriously, the people that play this game are as childish and petty as the delinquents that are causing the crashes. I can and do blame DBG for a lot of their bad decisions but this attack nor using social media to relay messages is reason to be mad at them. Grab a box of tissues and find a quiet corner IMO.
If a paid service is unavailable and the provider specifically down plays the reason by calling it “minor” …. I think it is fair to get hourly updates.
Being in IT …if we had a critical service down my management would want hourly updates.
My post was directed mainly at the anti social media crowd. So I’ll ask again; if their site is down and can’t be accessed yet people steer clear of Twitter/FB for whatever nutty reason, how are they supposed to send hourly updates? Want them to call you at home? Express mail?
email
Actually FELDON my first post was at 6:32 est, almost 3 1/2 hours ago. Might wanna recheck your software, but than again… you seen prone to that problem at Daybreak.
Considering this is not a Daybreak-run site and I don’t work for them…
A professional overseeing the “fate” of so many gamers would have not dignified these moron kids with a response. There should be consequences for Smedley. Hopefully, this lonely hack-child will choke on his hot pocket tonight.
Or a mustamakkara.
Everyone complaining on here is not really solving issues. If Smed or anyone reads this, at this point I would hope they are doing what they are supposed to be instead of reading this, then you all are doing nothing but stressing them out further, I am sure at this point they realized they screwed up. I am sure everyone here has also scewed up once before and made people unhappy whether it was one or thousands. Regardless of what happens, look at it this way. When the first DDoS against Blizzard, SoE/DGC, Microsoft happen, did they call these people out? No. So they at that point ruined people’s day regardless if “calling out.” This is not Smeds fault and they caused him much stress, but I see this as Lizard Squads fault and doing not Smeds. Lizard Squad did not have to DDoS.
well this could be just a ploy so that daybreak can announce they’re done with the game–which is what they were going to do at years end anyway—so they can move on to other things. from the getgo, when they took over for soe, nothing was put into the game but some crappy “updates” that didnt amount to anything. and it was said on day one that everquest 2 is in its final run and by years end will be gone…i had the website link for it, and it was even on here back when but now forgotten and lost….so anyway, could this be it? sure, maybe the hack is real, and this smed jerkoff caused it or whatever–so lets use this as an excuse to wash our hands of the game, why not right?
How’s that pointy tin hat fit?
LOL, i just spit my cereal all over my montior, but it was worth it! 😈
ohhh lol, also love on the homepage of this site how it still has that 8hour old statement about how the servers went down “2 hrs ago” lol..wtf? no updates? not that it matters but still….in addition, on the right of the page, it shows all the servers are up lol…man i wonder about this place 🙂
Lame, i rolled a nice doob for some playtime tonight… what a waste
Been a few hours and no update. Reminds me if that lil incident a few years back when they were hacked and down for weeks. HOW ABOUT AN UPDATE??? Ya know… just for shits and giggles O.o
These idiots are in no way capable of anything like that! Unless DB just took all their security offline! LOL
I recommend that people contact Columbus Nova Technology Partners, the people who bought SOE from Sony before they were renamed to Daybreak Games.
If enough people let them know that they will no longer tolerate a hot-headed, arrogant CEO, and that it will affect their bottom-line with less revenue, then maybe we’ll get some change.
info@cntp.com
Jason Epstein – jepstein@columbusnova.com
Sent mine
As a paid subscriber, I’d like to NOT be ignored. Just tell us what steps are being taken and give a professional ETA based on whatever backup plan they have in place. I’ve been paying them since 1999… and I buy ALL that dumb marketplace shit. Just fake it for me… pretend you give a shit. Tell me something 🙂
people around the world need to start #finland or @finland or whatever it is and get them to pay attention to stupid shit that goes on their property.
Looks like lots of people with spare time. They should publish the addys sending the incoming traffic. (I know, probably bot, but the ISP might be a bit more responsive if there is unwanted attention returned.)
What is the company currently doing?
Frustrating I know, but giving the script kiddie bullies their victim’s head on a silver platter (e.g. getting Smed fired over this) would be backward.
Resting comfortably at home. Ignoring the situation.
There are some serious nerd rage tears being shed in this thread. We pay 2.08 cents per hour per month per account for this game. The servers have been down for what, six hours? Are we cancelling accounts and /ragequitting over 13 cents? Sure, downtime is annoying. However, some people need to get a grip.
It really is pretty sad.
I just watched my 3 yr old pitch an epic fit over not getting something he wanted. It made me think of some of the people posting. Its a game remember? Mr. Smedley didn’t create this problem, a group of entitled little whiners did. How bout taking the time out to spend with your families? Or go outside? Or just to reflect on how you’ve made such a fuss because you couldnt sit in your gh and bs with guildies or run rum cellar for the hundredth time. Is it really so bad? go to bed kids, the team is working hard to fix the problem. It will be ok
I agree, the internet is a place where psychological profiles of this kind of people can be observed more openly, probably due to alleged anonymity. I don’t mind people complain but wonder how apparently so strong feelings arise from such rather neglectable (gaming) problems. May be helplessness or a way to let go other frustrations maybe.
My guess is that this last downtime was the nail in the coffin for the quitters. It’s not been the first time.
Oh, I doubt anyone really quit. It’s that whole thing where they need to give the appearance of the self-righteous, empowered consumer, waving their $15 over their head in triumph, squealing, “F*ck you, Daybreak scum!!!11!”.
They’ll be logging in like everyone else once the servers are back up, while digging into a freshly opened bag of Doritos.
Ya, you are right. No one who says they are quitting, actually quits, thats why EQs servers are jammed packed.
If the company doesn’t fix this fast they will lose my subscription and many others on EQ2
Sad as it it, Smed is an adult and should act like one and a professional also, yet he is not acting as either. Yes, they hit him and his family hard but you don’t tell the enemy, what you intend to do to him, you do things quietly and surprise him.
As for the Lizard, not only kids play these games adults do also. People like your granmother who have nothing else they can do because their bodies are fading. People with diabilities that can’t have any other enjoyment. This is not funny nor cute and saying you did it to show a lack of security is plain BS and we all know it.
Frankly, you both need to handle your disagreements in private, meet each other and go at it. But then its easy to be a big man behind a monitor and safe in your country. I doubt you would do that.
You are not a hero Lizard nor a big man, nor have done nothing great for humanity and I have to say neither is Smed for baiting you openly and making things worse.
You both need to see how you’re causing grief to people who never did a thing to you. It’s time to grow up, boys.
LOL No one would quit over 6 hours downtime, but intelligent people would definitely consider it after 3 major hacks without the company providing extra security and a contingency plan. The reality is, this is a SERIOUS problem and has very little to do with actual gaming time. The ignorant people posting naive shit should be the ones “getting a grip”.
Agree fully.
lol, says the person that in a previous post who said he would cancel his sub and his family’s sub as well lol….what a hypocrite nothappy LOL
Hacking is bypassing security through vulnerabilities in the software. A DDoS (i.e. a Distributed Denial of Service), on the other hand, is utilizing several systems (with or without a given system owner’s knowledge) to overload the target with access requests.
The former requires extensive knowledge about exploiting software vulnerabilities. The latter can be performed by a person with absolutely no knowledge of hacking that knows how to run a program.
tl;dr – hacking a system is fundamentally different from initiating a DDoS attack. If you are going to chastise someone for certain things that have occurred, you may want to consider using the appropriate terminology.
As a paid subscriber, I’d like to NOT be ignored. Just tell us what steps are being taken and give a professional ETA based on whatever backup plan they have in place. I’ve been paying them since 1999… and I buy ALL that dumb marketplace shit. Just fake it for me… pretend you give a shit. Tell me something 🙂
Something.
(you should probably take your concerned consumer rage to the link above where you can email the staff directly. This is not a Daybreak site)
If DDOS is really that difficult to prevent then in theory some stupid shit could keep Daybreak games offline indefinitely. So much for your favourite SOE games, might as well cancel subs and move on and any time some wannabe hacker gets a hard-on for a game company people might as well forget those games because DDOS is impossible to stop(apparently).
DDOS is basically a kid or 2 using a bot program to try and log into the game repeatedly from multiple locations (possibly millions)
AKA, it’s the same appearance we have when we try to play. The only way to stop DDOS is to stop it at it’s source, or block everyone, including players.
-.- still… I can’t believe these assholes weren’t tracked after 2 days…
im a little annoyed at the fact that we pay to play in all access and it said at one time we had phone access when you have full membership gold and now i find just trying to find out troubles i cant chat or call or do anything except sit and wait and hope for the best since gold dont mean shit anymore ive played everquest 2 since it started and i have watched sevice quality go down the tubes and now the game is offline and nobody can give a vetran gold membership the time of day let alone info on game conditions or support only a stinking ticket that so far in some aspects ive been waiting for missing items in my game inventory for a few weeks and nobody will take the time to replace or find my missing gear so how are you guys going to get info if i cant get my missing armor back or a simple explination of where or how that took place… 😥
Actually Daybreak further downgraded their customer support. They no longer handle missing item issues. Someone could hack your acnt and delete all your characters and they don’t care, your guild leader of a decade old guild could go offline and your guild is pooched. Look it up on Google, they literally say just that.
Regular updates to paying customers is the hallmark of a professional company.
https://twitter.com/DaybreakGames
Daybreak Games @DaybreakGames 5 minutes ago
We are still working to resolve connectivity issues affecting many of you. Thank you for all your patience and understanding.
Daybreak Games @DaybreakGames 5 hours ago
All games, websites, and forums are still impacted. We do not have an ETA for when services will be restored.
Daybreak Games @DaybreakGames 8 hours ago
We are working to resolve the current connectivity issues. Thank you for your continued patience.
Daybreak Games @DaybreakGames 10 hours ago
We are currently investigating reported issues with connectivity both in-game and on our websites/forums. Thank you for your patience.
Keeping users on hold for five hours, the last two updates, is lacking in professionalism.
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https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/619255048841760768
John Smedley
@j_smedley
Getting a minor DDOS. We’re working on it. should be back up soon. #annoying
2:21 PM – 9 Jul 2015
Dear Everquest franchise,
Please get bought out by a CEO/Company that cares about its playerbase
Return of the Useless Skiddies…
Skittles aren’t useless, they’re delicious!
Skiddies – S(cript) Kiddies.
If Smed never got himself into this in the first place this wouldnt be happening now lets look at the timeline a bit.
3 kids or whoever Lizard whatever
“Lets shut everything down involving Sony, Microsoft, Blizzard blah blah(of course this included SOE)
THEN here comes Smedly blah blah blah to Lizard kids
Media
“Hey lets print everything that Smed with SOE said about these kids
Lizard kids
“Hey who is this guy lets focus on him now”
Lizard kids
“Hey Smed is going to SOE Live lets make his plane sit on the tarmac by threatening a bomb scare”
Smed more blah blah blah hey focus on me more
Lizard kid then gets arrested in another country and set free
Smed ” I think I will go on twitter and rant and draw more attention to myself”
Media once again
“Hey lets print everything Smed posted on twitter like it wasnt bad enough already”
Lizard kids
“Hey lets keep attacking this Smed guy and shut down all of Daybreaks games”
John Smedly needs to sign some kind of disclosure agreement to keep his mouth shut because we all pay for his stupidity, let these asshole kids focus on something else and STOP DRAWING ATTENTION TO US idiot.
Honestly as long as they get publicity for doing things like this they will keep doing it. It is like throwing gasoline on a match. If you don’t do it, it burns right out. If you do you get an explosion. Ignore the children’s temper tantrum. And yea, smeed needs to keep is mouth shut. He has a bad habit of feeding the fire.
Well we are under attack again i got 500-2600 ping and major packet loss the game is totally unplayable time is 10:07am CST.
And so it starts again for a second day… 😐
And on a main raid night too — if this isn’t cleared up, gonna be a ton of ticked off raiders tonight …….
Yup well it was a fun 20 minutes that I actually got in to play.
kiddie gets his criminal activities essentially dismissed and then 2 days of DDOS … nevermind Smed. Finnland sent the WRONG message.
Exactly. The didn’t even slap his hands, unless they used a wet noodle.
This is pathetic! Daybreak is completely incompetent. How the hell are you still unable to resolve this issue? Do you have no security?? No backup??? No contingency plan whatsoever???? Your entire business depends on just one thing: keeping the games running! You seriously can’t do that one simple thing while you sit back and collect everyone’s money? As a company, you should be ashamed of your incompetence.
I’m pretty sure Daybreaks response is simply to wait till the kiddies get bored or nod off to sleep. Even Sony seemed unable or unwilling to combat this. Kind of scary to see what power a few naughty kids have to bring a company staggering to its’ knees.
This is irritating me… If DDOS was unstopable then half the sites on the net would be down from idiot wannabe hackers. Funny, it’s just Daybreak. Fix your shit then compensate your customers with more than some cheesedick apology.
I would like to see how cocky this damn kid would be locked in a room with Mr. S. Its easy to be arrogant and threatening when you are hiding behind a computer screen. (and I know SOMEone will say the same about my comment).
“Yea, that’s ME! Telephone tough-guy!” – Leo Goetz.
File Under: Smed’s mouth writes checks that his ass can’t cash.
Any communication from the “brain” trust on what they are doing to address this ongoing issue? Or have they just closed up shop and gone to the pub for the rest of the day. Might as well, not like you’re getting anything accomplished since these criminals are obviously in control.
I feel a double XP weekend coming on 🙄
If we can get on that is ………………
Wow is all I can say, hey wait … is WoW affected probably not since these kids probably play it lol
No, WoW isn’t affected.
DDoS attacks can take choke or take down internet traffic, some target business and banking sites, etc. This garbage is not funny in the slightest. To those of us shorted on game time, we have options to take part in RL. That said; What the guys are getting away with has serious ramifications.
Crap like this, makes Cloud Computing a little scary 😉
Well it looks like the EU splitpaw is up and running…
Things are improving. There are 15 players on the TLE-Beta server atm. Laggy still, but seems to be SLOWLY improving.
I can’t believe how many people are angry with Smed and cancelling subs instead of being outraged by the useless twits that are the actual problem and the absolute ineffective means used to deal with their brand of cyberterrorism.
I think people are just annoyed with the overall lack of good management and decision making on the part of DBG (and yes SOE before that) and this is just a vehicle they are using to express that.
We’re angry, because this isn’t the first time Smed has caused outages by needlessly talking smack to these people. Smed loves to gloat and egg these people on, for some stupid reason. We’re angry because he didn’t learn his lesson from the last time he decided to talk crap.
Smedley basically says he hopes the guy gets raped in prison. Threatened to sue his parents. Calls them various names… This is the result.
This is the result of letting them get away with doing this junk. Smed is a fool for doing what he did, but that in absolutely no way excuses what these people are doing.
Yep and the country who let htem get away with it is Finland Finland needs to get the balls to do what is right here throw the guy in prison for at least 10 years and then take away his access to all computers and the internet for life he has shown he does not know how to use a computer properly
None of us are arguing what they’re doing is acceptable. Making public insults and egging them on is idiotic with the position he’s in.
Smed ran his mouth and it resulted in DDOS, had he kept his mouth shut and just used the justice system to take down LS I believe the players would’ve less pissed.
But hey just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should. This is a good example.
Don’t mess with Lord Varys! lol
There’s obviously not a team analyzing this traffic.. Can we get atleast one competent IT guy to start rejecting lizards network of ip’s… DBG should be able to mitigate some of the damage after this long.. Talk to your ISP if you can’t figure it out DBG…
Lizard is winning, obviously.
It’s 4pm est as of this post, I’m at work and unable to see how things are going other than on here so, I take it the game is still down? Was hoping to play tonight
No, they’re up. Bit laggy, but playable. I’ve been online for over an hour now, both on the TLE-PVE Beta server and on Nagafen.
Noooooo!! JUST when I had renewed my subscription. 😡
LMAO unbelievable! They are STILL down? How the hell is this company in business with such horrible practices? How is there not a preventative measure for this??? SOLVE IT ALREADY!
Guess that means they’re still down
I am not a fan of the “blame the victim” mentality. Smed was being childish. But if the justice system in Finland had done it’s job, we wouldn’t be sitting here today instead of playing the game.
It’s a mess. I don’t blame Smed. I blame the punks that are doing this. I blame the punk’s parents for not raising better children.
so we should have to deal with the repercussions of the situation? that’s ridiculous. we were brought into a situation we had nothing to do with because of both parties so there is equal blame to be bandied about. No one is blaming Smed. Just saying he handled it incorrectly. Unfortunately, we’re the victims now as well.
Everquest is fine — EQ2 is still very very slow for me — so much for playing EQ2 any time soon — sheesh just after the TL beta opened — great timing !
So servers down still? 545pm est…I take it they are, don’t see any responses to my first post asking about it
you’ll get in eventually but it’s pretty much a waste of time at 2:47 PM PST
Things I’ve learned from comments:
-Blaming the victim is still the most popular pastime.
-A lot of people have no idea what DDoS is and think that Daybreak could prevent it. That’s sort of like thinking car factories control roads and are responsible for traffic jams.
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I believe that if victims do not speak up and protest injustice then criminals win. The silence allows criminals to continue to find victims and get away with their crimes. The fault lies with the criminal.
so if you’re standing in the middle of a battlefield and someone who can keep you from being shot continues to mouth off whether they are justified or not is okay regardless of consequences to people in the middle?
So you don’t speak up and let them go around shooting whoever they want?
I’m sorry, I don’t think not getting to play a game due to criminals being little babies is the same as getting shot at by a gun. Perhaps I underestimate the lethal consequences of lack of game playing for some people. 🙄
yeah obviously speaking up really helped the situation and made those bad people suffer real consequences for their actions.
I guess we remain on opposite sides of this. Perhaps if he had spoken up before the guy was let go scot-free, the criminal might have faced more serious consequences and wouldn’t have encouraged the DDoS.
perhaps if he acted like a professional and kept his dumba ss mouth shut we wouldnt be in this situation.
Yes because a court in Finland is going to listen to an impact statement from the President of an American company. THAT makes sense.
Well said
I agree, Katz, this “blame the victim” mentality makes little sense to me. Smed described the hell these people have brought to his family. He said he wasn’t going to take the court’s actions lying down. I see nothing wrong with those statements.
What I *do* find fault with is Finland’s court system not even banning internet access as part of its probation order in this case. Since many of the charges (including most of the charges that are still pending) stem out of attacks against SOE or Smedly, it was inevitable that they’d attack again to prove they’re “untouchable.” The attacks probably would have happened even if Smed kept completely quiet. Yet instead of directing anger at the people and institutions that caused the problem, most of the people here are blaming the guy who was doxxed and had his credit destroyed.
“A DDoS attack makes use of thousands of compromised computers (often in China as millions of internet users there are running unpatched Windows XP / Internet Explorer 6 machines)”
Times like this, Temporarily deny service to China. It’s extreme, but China needs the internet more than the Internet needs China. Time to nudge the sleeping panda into action.
As for non-China folks hacking China computers? The People’s Liberation Army is likely aware, and likely not amused.
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2899048/china-discloses-cyberwarfare-unit-no-one-surprised.html
“The Chinese government noted the existence of the country’s cyberwarfare unit in “The Science of Military Strategy,” a publication put out by a research institute of the People’s Liberation Army”
The Chinese government is very slow, but known for taking extreme methods to solve their internal problems. No slap on the wrist; confiscation, execution.
And responding in kind externally. With millions of Chinese hackers, they are the last people you want to hack.
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http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/feb/23/mandiant-unit-61398-china-hacking
Chinese army hackers are the tip of the cyberwarfare iceberg
“Chinese denials of much hacking activity often have an air of plausibility due to the lack of sophisticated security for many organisations’ networks and the fact that individual hackers, motivated by patriotism or simple mischief, can do it. In 2011 one assault was traced to Chinese academic bodies.
Of course, China is not the world’s only hacker. Few people doubt that American spies and companies give as good as they get. Even though Beijing lurks behind the Great Firewall of China and strictly regulates its internet, the country in 2011 suffered some 500,000 cyber-attacks”
Well here it is, the weekend and I’m sure day break will be closing soon at 5 their time which means no game play all weekend…I doubt they’ll be bothered by this for the next 2 days…….
Seriously? One thing I’ve learned from being a subscriber from launch, is that the developers and other employees at SOE/DBG really do care.
I’m sure there will be someone there working on it, in whatever capacity that they can, until it’s fixed.
But maybe some sunlight might do you some good.
Kids these days man.
According this article, the high St. Louis attacks on the Norse Map are misleading – http://fox2now.com/2015/07/08/is-st-louis-under-a-cyber-attack-threat-map-points-to-china/
Very interesting! Thank you.
So..who’s playing what until this ends? Wrath of Dawn for me.
Skyrim needed some time to be smacked into shape anyhow! 🙂
FF 14
Err, Grim Dawn 😀
More media coverage this always helps(sarcasm)
http://fortune.com/2015/07/10/john-smedley-vs-hackers/
I’m no fan of Smedley, I think he behaves like a bit of a tool mostly and he’s not done great things for my favourite game over the years. However, as far as I know, he never murdered anyone, raped anyone, he’s not a paedo or a terrorist. He’s just a big nerd with a bigger mouth. He doesn’t deserve to be targeted by this moon-faced cyberturd just for opening his mouth. Having been a victim of this kind of thing myself, not on such a grand scale of course, I can understand his stance on this, kind of. It’s basically a personal attack on him and his family and where I come from if someone attacks your family you try and do something about that, one way or another. Emotions can run high and you might not always consider the bigger picture or consequences of your actions. Comparing this whole thing to being on a battlefield and being shot at? Really?? It’s a game for goodness sake. There are other games to play when this kind of thing happens if you really need that fix. Maybe leave the house? Take the dog for a walk or go to the park with your kids. If this is how it upsets some people when they can’t play this game for a while, God help you if ever have a real problem to cope with.
I’m just playing Witcher 3 🙂
Dumbass Smedley, don’t taunt those guys man. Don’t lower yourself to…. oh wait.
Oh how I wish there were some gamers in Finland that could teach this obnoxious kid a lesson he would never forget. I blame the parents for raising such a horrible teenager.
Toilet paper his house! Leave flaming bags of dog poop on the porch for them to stomp on and go EEEEWW!!
Actually had the dog poop thing done to me once. Didn’t work as intended. I looked outside after a knock and there was a burning plastic bag on the porch…went inside grabbed a casserole dish and plopped it upside down over the bag to contain and smother the flames. Boy that must have been boring for the kids who rounded up the poop.
Someone posted this link to Smed’s twitter feed:
https://r000t.com/jkivlogs/potty_mouth.mp3
I looked up Blair Stratter and found this article:
https://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/blair-strater/
The “child” definitely needs a tad more supervision than he’s been getting.
If that is what Smed’s been dealing with….I sure as heck don’t blame him for getting a bit annoyed with the “punishment” the court gave that twerp this week.
My family being threatened like that would make me a bit crazy.