ProSiebenSat.1 Fan Faire Panel and EQ2 Transition Delay

Written by Feldon on . Posted in International (Pro7Sat1), SOE Live (Fan Faire)

Linda “Brasse” Carlson has announced that based on the progress of the transition of DCUO players from SOE to ProSiebenSat.1, EverQuest II would see a delay to ensure a smoother process:

Hail Denizens of Norrath in the UK and EU,

I just wanted to stop in here on the EQII Forums to give you an update the current status of the transition of our EU players to ProSiebenSat.1 Games. Having recently completed the transition for DC Uiniverse Online, we’ve learned a great many valuable lessons and identified a few areas where we’d like to improve the processes. We’re currently using that information and the feedback from player experiences and are working to improve the process further for players in future transitions.

To this end, we have made the call not to make the transition for EverQuest II players during the time frame noted in the previous CS notification email.

As soon as we have more information on a new schedule for the EQ2 transition, we’ll let you know here, immediately. Further, when we settle on a new date, all EU players can expect to receive a new CS email notification, well in advance.  As a side note, and again as a result of valuable player feedback, we were able to fix the issue where some EU players did not receive the initial CS notification email.

Thank you all, and see you in game!
Warmest regards,
Brasse

Also with regards to SOE Live (Fan Faire):

We will absolutely have a ProSiebenSat.1 panel at SOE Live! They are sending over quite a number of their team to participate in the event, and it will be a great opportunity for folks to get to meet them and ask questions directly.

We’ll be updating the SOE Live site with a number of panels/events next week, so keep an eye out!

Brasse also addressed some of the concerns of an outspoken player Moldylocks:

There is no question that our entire community has been instrumental throughout this process in outlining and defining concerns. As with any aspect of our game development, be it content, marketing, accounts, etc., the player base is always invaluable in improving our services and processes. We rely on everyone to help examine, test and provide feedback to make things better than our internal teams could possibly do alone (there are a lot more community members than employees). We always have, and always will be grateful for this.  Again, I thank each and every one of you.   =)

We’re still chasing down any possible old instances of wording regarding account deletion, so if you still see any online (original source, not just reposted in threads), please bring the direct link of the appearance to Dexella or Piestro’s attention. No accounts will be deleted for SOE games. Further, all character and item information is stored on SOE servers, and always will be.

Volume 67: Reims, Opera 23 September 1975 (2 cdr)(6/10)
Disc 1:
-Part One 44.03

Disc 2:
-Part Two 32.27
Part Three 10.07
(audience master tape recording. Remastered by Xarco. Special thanks to T. Moreau)
Volume 68: Paris, Hippodrome 26 January 1976 (2 cdr)(6/10)

Disc 1:
-Part One 34.10

Disc 2:
-Part Two 39.00
-Part Three 16.10
-Part Four 13.14
(audience recording. Remastered by Side Effects at Studio Positivland. Special thanks to The Oracle)
Volume 69: Columbus, Ohio Theater 29 August 1988 (2 cdr)(8/10)

Disc 1:
1- Mothers of rain 5.08
2- After the call 5.31
3- Tyger (instr.) 4.50
4- Alchemy of the heart 4.08
5- Papyrus (piano) 3.38
6- Phaedra 88 4.22
7- Livemiles 1.2 5.09
8- Livemiles 1.3 4.47
9- Logos 88 5.21

Disc 2:
1- Parabola 13.29
2- Table Bay 2.18
3- Nomads scale 8.48
4- Cat scan 4.51
5- Atlas eyes 5.02
6- Marakesh 7.51
7- Eden’s gate 1.36
8- Ghazal (love song) 4.39
9- Alexander Square 5.05
10- Canyon voices 4.51
11- The midnight trail 3.42
12- House of the rising sun 4.41
(audience master tape recording. Remastered by Whoopy Snorp. Special thanks to Harry B.)
Volume 70: Paris, Fête de l’Humanité 14 September 1975 (1 cdr)(5/10)

-Part One 36.26
-Part Two 36.18
(audience master tape recording. Remastered by Xarco. Special thanks to Maff)

Volume 71: London, Shepherds Bush Empire 06 November 1997 (2 cdr)(6/10)
Disc 1:
1- Waterborne 5.58
2- Betrayal 2.54
3- Poland 8.15
4- Sundance Kid 5.59
5- Silver scale 6.57
6- Warsaw in the sun 5.39
7- Stratosfear 95 7.56
8- Dolphin dance 5.38
9- Streethawk 3.53
10- Beach theme 3.59
11- Percussion solo 2.28
12- Flashflood 7.46
13- 220 Volt 6.08

Disc 2:
1- 220 Volt contd. 2.14
2- Firetongues 6.53
3- Two bunch palms 5.36
4- Little blond in the parc of attractions (Thai Dub) 7.36
5- Rising haul in silence 7.26
6- Lamb with radar eyes 7.19
7- Touchwood (Forest Mix) 7.55
8- Timesquare 8.49
9- Maedchen on the stairs (rien ne va plus mix) 6.52
10- Thief Yang and the Tangram seal 5.05
11- Towards the evening star 6.17
12- Purple haze 3.47
(audience recording. Remastered by Side Effects and Whoopy Snorp)
Volume 72: Washington, Warner Theater 28 June 1986 (2 cdr)(7/10)
Disc 1:
1- Pilots of purple twilight 5.15
2- Stratosfear 86 6.54
3- Akash deep 13.34
4- Beneath the waves 3.08
5- Zen Garden 4.59
6- Scuba Scuba 5.06
7- Coloured rain 3.18

Disc 2:
1- Piano medley 5.24
2- Dolphin dance 8.36
3- Ride on the ray 11.07
4- Going west 5.39
5- Yellowstone Park 5.59
6- Underwater twilight 4.20
7- Legend leftover 3.25
8- Unicorn theme 8.06
9- Mozart piano solo 2.08
10- Rare bird 4.52
11- Bois de Boulogne 6.41
(audience recording. Remastered by Whoopy Snorp)
Volume 73: Saint Ouen, Alhambra Theatre 20 November 1973 (2 cdr)(6/10)
Disc 1:
Part One 52.40

Disc 2:
-Part Two 41.02
(audience master tape recording. Remastered by Xarco. Special thanks to Maff)
Volume 74: Essen, Philharmonie 14 October 2005 (2 cdr) (6-7/10)
Disc 1:
1- Above the great dry land 6.43
2- Chasing the bad seed 8.49
3- Slave to the gods 6.23
4- Hope and glory 6.44
5- Sun son’s seal (Part One) 8.21
6- Beyond all suns 6.34
7- Sisyphus 4.24
8- All the steps to heaven 13.31
9- Mountain of destiny 10.44

Disc 2:
1- The glowing Zodiac wheel 5.10
2- Modern cave men 5.03
3- Death of Medusa 7.23
4- Blinded by the world’s desire 6.28
5- Sun son’s seal (Part Two) 8.22
6- Soulgate 8.03
7- Till the end of silence 5.14
8- Prison and paradise 5.40
9- Spirit spiral 8.32
10- Edgar’s closing words 2.00
(MiniDisc master recording. Remastered by Whoopy Snorp. Special thanks to Chris O.)
Volume 75: Liverpool, Empire 26 March 1978 (2 cdr)(4/10)

Disc 1:
Part One 58.23

Disc 2:
Part Two 42.00
Encore 15.34
(audience recording. Remastered by Side Effects and Whoopy Snorp)
Volume 76: Berlin, Friedrichstadtkirche 8 July 2005 (1 cdr)(7/10)
JEANNE D’ARC
1- La vision 12.45
2- La joie 5.16
3- La force du courage 8.38
4- La solitude dans l’espoir 7.31
5- La marche 8.33
6- La sagesse du destin 7.58
7- Le combat du Sang 10.19
8- Le combat des Épées 14.03
9- La libération 4.54
(MD master recording. Recorded and remastered by Chris O. Additional remastering by Whoopy Snorp.)

Volume 77: Manchester, Apollo Theatre 28 October 1990 (2 cdr)(7/10)

Disc 1:
1- Three bikes in the sky 6.00
2- Atlas eyes 4.12
3- Gaudi Park 5.10
4- Catscan 5.38
5- Alaskan summer 3.28
6- Betrayal 3.38
7- Diamond diary 2.53
8- Love on a real train 2.57
9- Phaedra 88 4.01
10- Electric lion 8.49

Disc 2:
1- Rolling down Cahuenga 8.11
2- Dolls in the shadows 5.03
3- Cries and whispers 12.48
4-Wall Street 3.22
5- Hitchhiker’s Point 5.09
6- Long Island sunset 7.47
7- Melrose 9.35
8- Alexander Square 5.00
9- Midnight in Bear City 5.06
10- Ruling the waves 5.45
11- Berlin summer nights 5.07
(audience recording. Remastered by Side Effects at Studio Positivland. Special thanks to The Oracle).
Volume 78: Liverpool, Royal Court 15 November 1980 (2 cdr) (7/10)
Disc 1:
1- Undulation 6.30
2- Waterfront 7.15
3- Calymba Caly 13.42
4- Undulation (reprise) 4.35
5- Palm House 3.56
6- Force majeure (excerpt) 3.56
7- The price 2.57

Disc 2:
1- Silver scale/Horns of doom 21.38
2- Phase change 4.56
3- Diamond duster 4.28
4- Diamond diary (guitar part) 11.05
5- Choronzon 11.49
6- The Kop 6.55
(audience recording. Remastered by Side Effects at Studio Positivland. Special thanks to The Oracle).

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Comments (17)

  • Seffrid

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    As I commented on the EQ2 board, and Brasse was kind enough to acknowledge the validity of the point, there’s very little benefit in PSS1 going to an event in America in order to address the concerns of the affected players who by definition under this deal live in Europe!

    I’ve no doubt that the EQ2 transition has been delayed because SOE have concerns over some of the problems they encountered in the DCUO transition, not because there are unresolved concerns that the players have. I haven’t seen any commitment not to make the transition until the players’ concerns have been fully resolved and I doubt they ever will be.

    Players want choice. They want the new players who PSS1 recruit to have to sign up with them while existing players have the choice whether to do so or to stay with SOE until they can see that PSS1 are an equal company to SOE to hold an account with. If the companies truly believe they can in time bring those players on side then it must be better to keep them with SOE in the meantime rather than lose them to the company’s games now and for all time, which is how it’s looking for a lot of long-term players at the moment.

    Recruiting a lot of new F2P players taking a non-committal look at the game is naturally a good thing, but so too is hanging onto a lot of established players who have for the most part subscribed to the games over many years thereby demonstrating a long-term commitment to them. That’s what SOE don’t seem to be able to get a grasp of at the moment.

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  • bhagpuss

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    Seconded. And a fine summation of where we are now and where we should be going, Seffrid.

    I am not rabidly anti-PSS1. I already have a PSS1 account, or rather I have an Allaplaya account. When I can fit in a session or two I play one of their games, Argo. It’s an enjoyable F2P title.

    That does not mean I want to give up more than a dozen years of history with SoE. Much less does it mean I’m happy to be sold on like a bad debt.

    A deal whereby PSS1 marketed SOE games in their territory and signed up all the new members that marketing brought them to their own financial benefit would not just have been accepted by the UK/EU players, it would almost certainly have been welcomed. This could have been a PR triumph instead of a PR disaster.

    If any of these decisions really are within the remit of SOE, something I have always doubted, it’s still not too late to do this right. I suspect, however, that all meaningful decision-making on this takes place somewhere above Smed’s pay-grade and at that level we really are all just numbers.

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  • G

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    A deal whereby PSS1 marketed SOE games in their territory and signed up all the new members that marketing brought them to their own financial benefit would not just have been accepted by the UK/EU players, it would almost certainly have been welcomed. This could have been a PR triumph instead of a PR disaster.

    Except that Europe is not the Us. As a scandinavian, i have NEVER HEARD of P7S1 before February. Europe is not like the US where you have widespread intra-state corporations known to everyone like CNN, CBS, Fox. Every country has their own TV networks (beginning to merge though) and even if we have an open market economy, services pretty much stay within nation lines.

    This is what pisses me off – The leadership SoE has so little understanding on how things work over here and things P7S1 is some sort of universal solution to Europe. Its like as if “Hey we got an EQ2 service here in Mexico, run by 2 teenagers and a Llama powering the server, come on all you US and Canadians, there is nothing to worry about.”

    As one of the few remaining Euros in EQ2 that didnt run away, i do NOT NEED P7S1. SoE just need a company to advertise in Europe and maby do some fan-faires – but the need to LEAVE MY ACCOUNTS ALONE! Right NOW, i can buy stuff from SoE – on the other side of the planet – without hassle – without having my personal information handled by an outsider. I have never seen such a nice working payment solution for a MMO. And SoE is about to destroy it.

    But i think SoE have invested so much time into this whole deal that they won’t back out, they are more interested in saving their faces (as their Japanese bosses would say) and going through with the deal inspite of the very valid complaints.

    But hey, they can always find a scapegoat and fire that person, who cares if it hurts the community as long as everything looks nice on paper and they get their yearly bonuses.

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  • Whis

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    “We will absolutely have a ProSiebenSat.1 panel at SOE Live! They are sending over quite a number of their team to participate in the event, and it will be a great opportunity for folks to get to meet them and ask questions directly.”

    lol ? So may Europeans charter some A 380 to fly to the states for asking a european company for questions about the european part of eq2 ?

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  • Lath

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    I dont understand why they inclued ALL players in the deal, server was not enough ?

    The choice is clear, Leave EQ2 or Leave EQ2. And they call this a choice.

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  • Lath

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    The sadest part in all this is the Account they SELL to PSS1 will end in Sony pocked at the end…
    Like they already sold me to Ubisoft, and by magic my account is still in sony pocket for sell it to someone else…

    Bit bored to be sold.

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  • Xandez

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    Had 2 gold accounts, cancelled em both because: 1) Dont want to be sold. 2) Transition from $ to € is 1:1 (so the new company takes 20% more than SOE, no thanks).

    Will continue to play free to see how this develops… hopefully they will give us something to choose from other that to leave EQ2 (like Lath said already above)

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  • Betony

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    @G Maybe a different Scandinavia but this article http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tv-prosiebensat1-euro-crisis-q1-322837 shows a presence of ProSeibenSat.1 in a Scandinavia. Also that Kanal 5 in Sweden has been part of PSS.1 since 1989. This article shows information about Sweden, Norway and Denmark. http://www.4-traders.com/PROSIEBENSAT-1-MEDIA-AG-447508/news/ProSiebenSat-1-Media-AG-ProSiebenSat-1-Group-secures-exclusive-free-TV-rights-to-US-series-%93Hannib-14263639/

    Google is fun.

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  • Seffrid

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    One day SOE will wake up to the significance of a game’s community. They can recruit another few hundred F2P players who hang around for a few weeks or even months, spending little or nothing, while they nonchalantly wave goodbye to players that have put their hearts and souls into the game for many years – and have paid over and over again while doing so. That level of commitment and loyalty once lost will never be regained, nor in the long-term will the level of revenue their commitment generates.

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  • Whilhelmina

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    Hey, I’m not the center of the european world ;p

    I always said, from the first day, that I would’nt pass to Prosieben. So, well, I have many ties on Test server and don’t want my work/stuff to be left to rot.

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  • skippydippy

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    Well said Seffrid i agree with your post wholeheartedly the plain truth to me is SOE don’t deserve EQ2 they never did.

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  • Foodcity

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    Even so, whilhelmina, you leaving will make a lot of people sad. first thing i did when i saw the thread was post it in Denmums forums, and she too is very sad about you leaving.

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  • melpheos

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    Oh well, i bought a beta access to Path of Exile anyway

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  • Corasik

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    PSS.1 have nothing in the Uk either. Including the security required for online credit card transactions etc. assuming pss1 can’t be avoided the best thing pss1 could do is subcontract the uk player base to Sky or Virgin. Or to be honest SOE as we want English speaking tech support that are not just volunteers with poor language skills. Even the pss1 terms and conditions are so badly translated into English. It’s like some April fools joke gone wrong.

    I may still play but it will certainly depend on their terms and conditions. Any delay is good news and extra time to enjoy the game.

    SoE should grow a pair and listen to their loyal European fans. Plus remember the disaster that was Ubisoft everquest.

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  • Lath

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    Ubisoft was a disater, but compared to this it was a sweet dream.

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  • Pipsissiwa

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    For concerned players who are on Facebook, there is a new place to discuss and rant, unfettered by SOE’s ridiculous over moderation. Please share with as many affected people as possible: https://www.facebook.com/EuroGamers

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